It's been 18 years since Faith No More last released a studio album--1997's "Album of the Year." Soon, the wait for new music will be over, as FNM delivers "Sol Invictus" on May 19, 2015. With it, comes a deeper touring schedule and much, well-deserved, hype.
While we don't often indulge in personal musings through our news, as Executive Editorial Director and your friendly neighborhood Agent M, I'm taking exception to the rule. I love Faith No More. I've been an enormous FNM fan since I could grasp a love for intense, complex music. So when the idea came to me to exclusively premiere a brand new Faith No More song, I jumped at the chance.
But, you may say, "why debut this song on Marvel.com?" First off, the song is titled "Superhero." Methinks we know a bit about super heroes. Secondly, Faith No More bassist Bill Gould grew up reading Marvel comics, with his love for Silver Surfer and the art of Jack Kirby being key talking points when I was pitched this idea. That's good enough for me!
You can hear the awesome, intense, and driving "Superhero" below, and then read my interview with Bill Gould. I spoke with Gould while the band was
beginning a leg of international tour dates in Australia, to discuss "Sol Invictus," find out how Marvel comics influenced his music, and geek out together over the majesty of Jack Kirby art.
Marvel.com: So we’re premiering “Superhero.” What is the song about?
Bill Gould: “Superhero” actually just started from the sound of the song, where it has these pounding drums and it has like this throbbing kind of pulse, and we just called it the “Superhero” song. Because, a lot of the ways we write we visualize things.
Actually this is kind of interesting because we’re probably a unique band in a way. While we write music we’re talking about chord changes and different things like that. What we do is we describe scenes together, and we can visualize the scene and the music kind of comes. We kind of make movie scenes for movies that don’t exist. “Superhero” was one of those where it was definitely a superhero comic, I mean that was just the vibe of the song, and when Mike came to me writing words about it, we were already calling it “Superhero.” So it’s kind of like in the DNA; it’s a comic strip.
Marvel.com: So you were actually a fan of the comics when you were growing up? You were what--a Silver Surfer fan?
Bill Gould: I was. To put things into perspective, I ceased being a comic collector in 1976 but up till then, I was really into it for about three years. Like obsessively into it. I had Silver Surfer #1, Conan #1 and #2, I had some really cool stuff.
Nova was a big one. That was my big hope for the future. I was hoping it would go another thousand [issues] into the series. Yeah, I was really into it. [When] I turned 15 years old, [I found out that] my next door neighbor really admired my comic collection. There was this scooter [he owned that] I really wanted to get, because I didn’t need a license to drive it, and I traded my entire collection for this scooter and I really regret it now.
Marvel.com: I can imagine.
Bill Gould: But he still has those comics and he still rubs it in my face when I talk to him.
Marvel.com: As well he should. You deserve that one. Nova’s an awesome character to get hooked on. We often hear Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Hulk, etc. So when you say Nova and Silver Surfer that’s super cool. Was it space and the cosmic thing that really got you?
Bill Gould: You know, I thought that both of those were interesting stories. They took a little bit of a departure, a psychological departure from you know, the classic super hero type thing. You know, I loved everything with Kirby art.
Marvel.com: Yeah, man. He’s the King!
Bill Gould: He really defined the characters, and the art came together in a really cool way.
Marvel.com: Yeah he had such huge ideas and the way he put it on the page--no one’s ever going to do that again.
Bill Gould: Yeah, it’s funny when you can be a 14-year-old kid and you can appreciate art like that. He really was a unique kind of individual and he can be appreciated. You know at that age, folks take you to an art museum and you want to get the hell out of there. But there was something about [his art]; my friends and I would actually talk about that stuff, and I had some friends that had some original Kirby art from a comic convention and that was like having a Mona Lisa in your house.
Marvel.com: It’s still like having a Mona Lisa in your house. That’s amazing!
Bill Gould: I can’t even imagine what it’s like now. To think about that back then, and how dear that stuff was... I think the first Silver Surfer at the time, which to me was valuable, was like 30 bucks or something like that.
That’s a lot of lawns to mow, you know? To think about if you held onto that now, it’s kind of crazy, but there were kids that were collecting whole series. I had a friend who had the whole AVENGERS series from #1 to #200 or something, and that’s like giving kids the entrepreneurial spirit. Cause you go to these conventions and you can start haggling and stuff like that. You knew what the "bluebook" value was, and the whole experience of it was super interesting--and then you read the comics too.
Marvel.com: Did you get a chance to see Marvel's "Guardians of the Galaxy" movie that came out last year?
Bill Gould: I didn’t, no, no.
Marvel.com: Ah, that’s too bad, because in the movie we introduced the Nova Corps, which Rich Rider, Nova, was a part of in the comics. The Nova Corps are a big part of the movie.
Bill Gould: Really!? I didn’t know that actually. Cool, I would actually see it for that reason.
Marvel.com: And with the Nova aspects, you’re going to love it. You don’t have Rich Rider like in the comics, but the Corps and the aesthetic are there. I can’t wait for you to see it.
Bill Gould: That’s cool. I’m actually really interested now. It’s funny because I hadn’t really thought of the Nova character until I heard I had this interview, and I was thinking back in my mind like, "what was I into?" and I started remembering. Actually Nova now kind of has a cult following doesn’t it?
Marvel.com: Oh man, you have no idea! There are so many fans that are super into Nova. We have a new character starring as Nova. He’s been a big part of the "Ultimate Spider-Man" cartoon. Kids love Nova. He’s in the "Disney Infinity 2.0" video game. Can you imagine?
Bill Gould: Oh really? See I’m out of the loop. That’s cool, I was always hoping that would happen. That’s cool, that’s really cool!
Marvel.com: Yeah, totally! Do you think that anything about the comics you read at that time influenced your work?
Bill Gould: Absolutely, absolutely. If you think about the Faith No More music, it is rock music for sure. It’s got a lot of different things about it, but one thing it always has in sound is this giant sound stage, this space. This large feeling, at least that’s what we try to get out of it, where the bottom is very deep and the tops are very high and the scale definitely goes back to comics. [Speaking] for myself, when you get your imagination going you start thinking of concepts like that, you carry that with you, for sure.
Marvel.com: That’s super cool. When was the last full Faith No More tour? Six years ago?
Bill Gould: Well, you know what we do now, we tour for a couple years. It didn’t feel like it because we keep the tours at moderate length. Back in the day we used to tour, for like six months at a time. One tour was almost 18 months. It was just go-go-go-go, and we almost got burnt out, so we try to keep it down to three weeks now, on a tour. So we do a lot of little tours and we’re kind of on a small tour now, and we’re just going to keep doing that. But yeah, we hadn’t done it in a couple of years.
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Marvel.com: Do you think anything has changed for you guys in the last couple years, especially now that you have a new record coming out?
Bill Gould: Well, we’ve kind of been in a bubble. We have new music, we have the new record coming out, but I don’t think we really realized people still kind of wanted to hear new material from us. I mean, we kind of suspected maybe they would, but it seems like, we’re much more popular now than we were 18 years ago when we made our last record and that kind of took us by surprise. But it’s a great thing. It means that at least the stuff back then stood the test of time. Have you actually heard the record?
Marvel.com: Oh yeah.
Bill Gould: Our new record?
Marvel.com: Yeah, yeah I got a stream of it from the PR folks at Speakeasy. I think I was giddy for two days straight, because it’s not often you get new Faith No More music and you’re like the only person around who can listen to it.
Bill Gould: Haha that’s cool. Great. A lot of people haven’t heard it yet, that’s why I was just curious.
Marvel.com: Yeah man, I was super excited. I've listened to "Sol Invictus" a few dozen times. I love it. How long ago did you guys start planning the new record?
Bill Gould: You know, it’s a really weird thing. It’s probably two years ago, two and a half that we actually started working on it. It was a little bit like getting your foot dipped in the water and then continuing to keep going.
We didn’t even tell anybody that we were doing it. I mean, we didn’t tell anybody for about a year. Because we were recording in our rehearsal space, so there were not even any studios that knew we were recording. Nobody did. No engineers, nothing, it was just between ourselves. This was actually very empowering, because there wasn’t any pressure to do anything. We didn’t have to deal with anyone gossiping, or anything like that. We just kind of showed up and just played. So we kept it for about a year and a half, and then it got to the point where it was starting to come together and we told people.
Marvel.com: How do you guys feel about the record now? I’m sure you’ve been listening to it and have been mastering it over and over again, but can you step back from it and look at it in a bigger landscape?
Bill Gould: I can try to. Just bear in mind, I think this was mastered about 10 days ago. I’m still recovering from the process.
That was like a week of mixing and matching, it was like zero sleep and then we hopped on a plane and went to Australia. But I would say, what I really hope we accomplish with this is, where it sounds like us but it doesn’t sound like we used to. It sounds like we are in 2015 and it doesn’t sound old, but at the same time also it doesn’t sound like some propelled record, it sounds like it’s actually an album. That when you hear it, you feel something that’s kind of classic. So that’s kind of what we’re shooting for.
Marvel.com: Yeah, there’s definite heart to it. So you produced it and engineered it. For the Marvel fans, who may be more familiar with the roles that the comic book industry has--writers, artists, editors and such--what’s the process like with doing the production and the engineering on a record?
Bill Gould: Well the first thing you have to do is write the music. You have to write the material first. So the big thing and the good thing about us is we never trusted producers ever. So we always kind of arranged our music before we even had a producer. Even back when we were recording, when we had a label and all that stuff. 95 percent of the arrangements were all ourselves, and then we recorded, so that we didn’t waste time in the studio. We started that early on in our recording career so it wasn’t any different this time.
The most important thing that the band could do was to have their arrangements before they started recording and know what they’re going to do. So we covered that angle of it and then there comes a point where you have to mic everything up. You know that can be really cool; there’s a lot more access to good equipment than there was 20 years ago but there are also challenges. The rehearsal room is not the easiest place to mic something up. You capture that, you get everything there where it’s recorded, and then you have to massage things, so they all fit into place.
And really what’s most important is, you try to step away from it and not put too much junk on it. I would actually compare it to cooking. Cooking something, you want to have the natural flavors of the food come out and that’s kind of how we do this when we’re recording. What happens then is you mix everything together and you take it to a mastering guy. Which a lot of times what he does is, he hears things that you didn’t hear because you’re involved in this process so you tend to miss things. You look at everything under a microscope and sometimes you can’t take a step back and look at the big picture. It’s great to have another guy who can [hear] things, and can see what he would fix and the really small adjustments to make everything sound great.
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Marvel.com: I love the idea that you said it’s like cooking. In my head, there are a lot of similarities to comic book editing. The editors in comics, they’re putting the pieces together as well--the writer is over here, the artist is over there, the inker, the letterer, etc. are all in different places and inputting. There are all these different people, and the editor has to bring it all together, but probably not put too much of their own vision or spin on it.
Bill Gould: I’m not familiar with the process of comics with the editors and how that works, but what I can say is there is no right way or wrong way to do anything. Some guys I know can be artists and writers and editors. Some guys, sometimes you get a better product if you have a couple different people who have all different perspectives all coming and putting something together, one artist and a different writer. There are a lot of different ways to do it and as long as the end result is good, then it’s all good.
“Superhero” will be available as a limited edition 7-inch single on March 17. Faith No More's forthcoming album, "Sol Invictus" releases May 19, from Reclamation Recordings/Ipecac Recordings. Visit fnm.com for tour dates and much more info.